Sunday, February 28, 2010

The Missing Link Between Creation and Evolution?

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Is the missing link between creation and evolution a no man's land and mine field destroying all that dare traverse the space between spirituality and science?

Over the years what mine sweepers there have been were targeted by whichever camp they have ascended from. If they step forth in faith from the Church seeking diligently to express the biblical text accurately but cross the threshold of evolution and an initial creation time longer than six days they are considered heretical by many pew sitters.

Likewise scientists that prize the truths of science more dearly than espousing a philosophical Darwinism requiring more faith than facts are quickly labeled as traitors of evolutionary dogma and are cursed to the flames of Bunsen burner and beaker purgatory.

There is a popular and intellectual warzone to this conversation as it seems so much hinges upon the outcome. Atheists often decry any and all spiritual solutions even when science may point towards a Creator…because if there is a Creator we have the ultimate game changer. Those of the spiritual community often are so frightened to recognize any scientific solutions that conflict with long held Church micro-culture ideas that they often mistake those ideas with biblical facts.

Thus it is with some trepidation I step into the target zone, yet there is freedom in the mystery of creation…for mystery there is. Science cannot nail down all of the pertinent facts unequivocally and empirically. Also it should not lay enthralled with the latest’s hypothesis or theory nor be bound by those on the deathbed of philosophical first causes or supposed biological linkages.

The Church should not lay prone in churchianity, internal Church politics and false unbiblical historical suppositions and misconceptions but instead should embrace the linguistics with biblical history in regards to the accounts of creation within the scriptural text.

The best science of the day cannot prove a universe that lacks a Creator. Science also cannot move into the space of “without a shadow of doubt” with the initiation of universal biology. We lack sufficient data and cannot relive the beginning of creation in our present state. I strongly suspect we shall never be able to garner the information needed to make an absolute statement that there is no Creator…and I am guessing that most people feel the same about this…we shall need to await the end.

However sophisticated the science is in regards to these topics the theology is perhaps even more complex. Science is dealing with the finite realm of creation whereas the Church speaks forth truth from the scripture about the Creator Who is infinite. The Church response would be that although it speaks of the infinite it does not do such blindly as the Creator has chosen to interact with the finite with His own words and interventions in creation…specifically with humans and we have those records that are well preserved.

I am of the Church spiritual community, I devoutly hold to the biblical text because I believe it is true. I recognize that both the scientific community and the Church have a felt need to seem like they have all the answers. Yet the truth is they do not, both takes steps of faith…and at times both go well beyond their ability in attempts to prove their ideas.

The amount of time that the initial creation took is unimportant and the text lends itself to more than the one consideration than a six literal twenty four hour days of creation…indeed there are many ways of devoutly unfolding the biblical text in understanding creation. One could even say it seems there is an intentional mystery built into the text that disables the possibility of certainty of time on this topic…it seems that a “need to know basis” is presupposed…and we need not know…Yet we do know the Creator created, Adam and Eve charged into the Fall of the universe fruit in hands. The rest of the story of scripture then unfolded with God Himself becoming incarnate in the person of Jesus. If the Creator created everything the rest of the miracles are a piece of cake.

I find no conflict between genuine science and genuine biblical exposition. How God created the cosmos and biology of the universe is not presented with sufficient detail in either science or scripture for us to declare we know all of the facts. Mystery enriches the biblical text on the topic of creation…mystery that is an unbridgeable gap for science…

Could it be that this mystery is the missing link between creation and evolution?

Now for another point of view turn the page to my simulblog colleague the mystery girl MAX.

7 Comments: To leave a comment click here:

Peter said...

Hi! As I mentioned in Max's blog, I'm one of those persons that sits on the fence when it comes to all of this.

But when all is said and done, I'm just thankful, thank God, to be here.

Off topic - I couldn't help but swap views from your post to the ad below "Fashion Week People Watching the Catwalk".

It goes on to say, "Meet local singles for free! Browse Girls" with a image of a very lovely voluptuous female dressed in black!

No, I didn't click on it as my better half wouldn't approve nor would I for that matter..tempted though.

Well then, off to confession I go! LOL

Take Care,
Peter

Livingsword said...

Hi Peter,

Great to hear your voice!

I think you speak for the vast majority, I suppose we are rather similar. I believe that God has done all this creating and that the biblical account is not meant to be a sophisticated scientific document.

I have no problem with the mystery although I know some people hate the tension and do not like to say “we do not know ALL the details”.

LOL Well the "Fashion Week People Watching the Catwalk" is a blurb for one of our recent articles and bellow that is an auto generated ad…We just put ads on this blog this weekend…what do you think? LOL Your ads are different than mine…

Hey have you watched any of the Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics? You know the Aussies started a stir up at the begging of the games with their huge boxing Kangaroo flag…

I always enjoy our conversations, take care…

Peter said...

Thanks for the quick response! As for the boxing Kangaroo it did wonders for our team as this winter olympics has been our best ever!

Now, if I was able to work out what prevented those figure skaters from falling over after spinning around like a top, I'd have a definite answer for your question on creation and evolution!

Take Care,
Peter

Max Coutinho said...

LSus...LSus...

CONGRATS!!! *Applauding*...
I loved this article; I absolutely loved it :D!

As I read it I kept nodding in utter agreement, for you have nailed it, man.
Indeed, science doesn't hold all the answers (beyond any reasonable doubt), because as we have seen what science says today to be true, tomorrow it can come around and say "Oops, we were misled in our studies". On the other hand, I agree when you say that the Church should not be so inflexible before scientific knowledge (in my opinion any kind of knowledge stems from God, even if incomplete due to our imperfection - matter does that to humans), and instead of fighting it it should unite forces with it.

There is only one thing I didn't agree (and I bet you know well what I speak of): "unfolded with God Himself becoming incarnate in the person of Jesus" - this makes no sense when we read Jesus' own words...

Excellent work, my dear dear friend: you did not disappoint (and I adore it when you do that): a big thank you for this delight :D!

Cheers

Bob Johnson said...

For me both science and religion are so intertwined, God Created, and man tries to understand physics wise how we got to where we are, when you take the creator God out of the equation it doesn't make any sense, duh, because you need a starting point which science will never be able to find with out the Creator who called us out of nothing, he can do that you know because he can create, simple but hard to comprehend because we are not creators in the spiritual sense, just big screen tvs sense.

That's where faith comes in, believing in things when common sense tells you not to, after all our common sense is nothing more than what we know to be true through science which in the end can't and never will be able to answer how we came into being without a creator.

I have taken the leap of faith by following God, and developed a deep personal relationship with him through Christ and the Holy Spirit's help, I could go on and on how he has changed my very being through reading his word my praying, events and people he has put in my path but it is something you have to experience first hand to fully understand.

Sorry to ramble on Livingsword, trying to put into words something that I really can't explain myself. Our visit in Vancouver was God at work, You were someone I needed at that point in my life and God put you in my path, something I will never forget.

DanS said...

God is gracious. For His own, He often allows insights that are beyond finding out (1Cor2:6-16).

If I may, I'd like to share what I believe He shared with me...a very simple approach for reconciling Genesis 1 with the latest discoveries in cosmological science.

First, a few words on the Hebrew structure of Genesis 1:1 to 2:4. This passage is structured thus: ( nnn ) where the opening parenthesis = Gen1:1, the nnn represent the narrative Gen1:2 thru Gen2:3, and the closing parenthesis = Gen2:4.

For some scientific insight into space, time, physics, cosmology, quantum physics, etc., read Brian Greene's THE ELEGANT UNIVERSE, where he does a good (basic) job in explaining the "Big Bang" inflation.

Starting with Einstein, the concept of time was joined with 3D space, producing a conjunctive 4D spacetime. God's Creation came into existence ex nihilo, starting with super-condensed spacetime. So not only did the cosmos inflate near infinite speed, SO DID TIME! In the 'first moment', billions of years were stretched as a huge canvas ready to receive further 'brush strokes' from the Grand Artist.

At the 'second moment' of Creation, we read: "Now the earth was formless..." Genesis 1:2. Here, the cosmic inflation AND TIME has slowed to the reality as we know it in history and today--the 24 hour day.

Conclusion: Time is bifurcated in God's Creation. God's Cosmos is both billions of years old (out of the cosmic inflation) as well as 6,000+ years starting from Genesis 1:2.

May the Lord grant readers the same appreciation for this explanation He's given me.

Livingsword said...

Hi Dan,

It is a pleasure to read your thoughts…

Indeed I have read the Elegant Universe and also have the DVD which I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/NOVA-Elegant-Universe-Michael-Duff/dp/B0000ZG0TA/ref=sr_1_cc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1297750044&sr=1-1-catcorr

You may also want to take a look at Genesis Unbound by John Sailhammer (I highly recommend the book) which I think you would quite enjoy as you liked the Elegant Universe and clearly have investigated the early creation:

http://www.amazon.com/Genesis-Unbound-Provocative-Creation-Account/dp/0880708689/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1297749659&sr=8-1

I see no conflict between genuine science (science that is not politically or theologically bent or twisted by money or a scientists desire for self aggrandizement) and genuine Scripture (the Bible itself not contortions of churchianity…church pop culture).

I deal with ex nihilo on one of my other blogs:

http://creationontheblade.blogspot.com/2008/04/ex-nihilo-and-other-latin-phrases-that.html

What do you make of the data showing that the universe is accelerating in its expansion and the dynamics of dark matter and dark energy?